Free vs Premium vs VIP

Have you ever wondered if it was a smarter buy to stop your VIP subscription and purchase all the packs outright, we’re breaking everything down right here!

Account Types

  • Free (f2p) is a player that has spent NO money in DDO. You get 2 character slots.
  • Premium is a non-subscriber that HAS spent money in DDO. You get 4 character slots.
  • VIP is a player that spends money every month as a subscriber. You get 10 character slots.

Breaking the Dollars Down

VIP annually is 12 months of $10 = $120.

We’re going to buy the highest tier points pack (usually at 5,000TP but occasionally 6,900TP) twice for 10,000TP (or 13,800TP) at a cost of $100. When you buy the 5,000TP pack for $50, each penny is worth a point. If you buy the lower-point packages, you’re spending more per TP (which can be as much as 6½ each at the lowest pack for instance).

We’re about to spend less than an annual subscription for a permanent VIPish account.

Clearance Rack

When middle class kids would hang out with mom, they learned how to stretch a dollar by watching the clearance racks. If you are patient, you’ll usually see at least one of the below go on sale each week. The sales are usually 20% or more off the normal price. The key here is patience.

Adventure Packs You’ll Use

Sharn Syndicate – 350TP (280TP on sale) TOP PICK!
Between this and the other f2p stuff, you’ll get enough Coin Lord favor for both extra backpack slots.

Delera’s Tomb – 750TP (600TP on sale)
Get your character to level 4 and run it through this on a solid XP grind, making sure it’s level 5 before you get it out of the 3 tombs (remember that you get XP bonuses for the first completion on each difficulty). It’s got some pretty damn good XP and you get the Voice of the Master which gives you +5% XP so long as you have it on, not to mention it’s a tribute to and narrated by E. Gary Gygax.

The Demon Sands – 850TP (680TP on sale)
Sands has great wilderness and loot, great XP and the Zawabi’s Revenge raid. You’ll run these quests over and over and spend so much time in the wilderness searching for bloodstones and spell storing rings, you’ll have sand in your boots and blisters on your toes.

The Ruins of Gainthold – 995TP (796TP on sale)
Gianthold. Dragonscale armor. Loads of XP. Good storyline. Reaver’s Fate raid. You could skip buying this pack, but it’s pretty damn nice.

The Necropolis part 4 – 850TP (680TP on sale) TOP PICK!
Part 4 includes the Orchard wilderness area and XP/loot for level 10 characters. Level 20s still run this because the loot and collectible items in here are great. Ascension Chamber raid. You’re going to want your 20 tap shreds to get your spiffy hats!

Reaver’s Reach – 350TP (280TP on sale) TOP PICK!
Dragontouched Armor with nice crafing and really cheap for what you get from it.

Path of Inspiration – 500TP (400TP on sale)
Good XP & really nice items. You’ll spend a good amount of time there. Excellent storyline.

The Vale of Twilight – 700TP (560TP on sale) TOP PICK!
Arguably one of the best wilderness areas with amazing loot. The Shroud raid is just amazing and item crafting is to die for… and if you act now, we’ll throw in not one, but TWO additional raids (Hound of Xoriat and Vision of Destruction)! Order in the next TEN MINUTES and we’ll throw in the Subterrane Central and East wilderness areas at no additional cost!

The Devils of Shavarath – 650TP (520TP on sale)
This is the place that level 20s fear going to. It’s got the raid that makes men of boys, Tower of Despair.

Adventure Packs You Can Do Without

The Ruins of Threnal – 550TP (440TP on sale)
About 4 hours of questing, good XP, get the Mantle of the Worldshaper (+5% XP, not stacking with Voice), tribute to & narrated by Dave Arneson.

Sorrowdusk Island – 400TP (320TP on sale)
This place is so randomly organized it’s frustrating.

Three Barrel Cove – 650TP (520TP on sale)
Quite expensive for no good reason. There are a couple missions out here, but the XP is meager and most skip it and come back to do it as favor… as far as skippable packs go, this is one of the better ones, but there’s so much lowbie content out there, it’s unnecessary.

Tangleroot Gorge – 550TP (440TP on sale)
Tangleroot is pretty popular and has a couple good items as end rewards such as a Death Ward clickie, +3 STR (ML5) and +3 DEX (ML5) bracers and a +50SP trinket. The XP is decent for the time spent there if you have someone experienced in the run, but it’s just redundant with other f2p content.

The Catacombs – 250TP (200TP on sale)
Aside from an eternal wand of healing (1-2 HP per click) or eternal wand of magic missile (at level 1 which = 1 missile at 1d4+1 damage), the loot from this SUCKS compared to how much time you put in to this. The cost isn’t that bad, but I don’t think it’s worth it. It’ll help get your favor up (with the help of Necropolis quests) which gives you slightly better city regeneration, but it’s not worth the time overall. Great story though, a lot of effort went in to it.

Shan-to-Kor – 250TP (200TP on sale)
STK is a pretty good pack with appropriate XP. You’ll get a chance at The Ring of Feathers, a ML2 FF ring… not too shabby. The quest chain end rewards are also not too bad here either.

Devil Assualt – 350TP
150TP for a single mission? C’mon. The loot sucks and the XP isn’t that great.

The Necropolis part 1 – 250TP (200TP on sale)
The Necropolis part 2 – 350TP (280TP on sale)
The Necropolis part 3 – 350TP (280TP on sale)
Nec 1-3 are good and offer decent XP, but you can get better XP in the Orchard… the only real thing you get here is the ability to increase your Silver Flame amulet into a really spiffy item at the very end. It takes a LOT of work and is worth it in the end. Missions are clean, well designed and fun. Top picks out of all the “Do Without” category.

The Restless Isles – 600TP (480TP on sale)
Must confusing effing place in the game. Storyline is shit and makes no sense. There’s no order to the layout and gameplay is not there. It does have the Titan raid, but even that’s not great. The wilderness is awful, missions suck and you’ll /death to get back to civilization quicker than you’ll realize.

The Vault of Night – 800TP (640TP on sale)
I get that this was the shizzy back in the day, but just because my dad’s generation drove a Nova doesn’t mean I have to think it’s hot today. If you want the red dragonscale armor and don’t mind spending about 6 months trying to get it… literally… then go ahead.

Sentinels of Stormreach – 450TP (360TP on sale)
While pirate zombies are damn cool, you just don’t need to buy more low-level stuff.

Phiarlan Carnival – 450TP (360TP on sale)
Nice stuff, epic-able, but there’s just too much f2p stuff to justify another purchase.

The Dreaming Dark – 450TP (360TP on sale)
You can continue the story from the Inspired Quarter above if you’d like. You can unlock the hidden potential of the items you pulled from the Mindsunder Chest at the end, but it’s a heck of a grind. Most of the unlocked items are not worth it, but a couple are really great.

Other Account Options

Warforged Race – 595TP (476TP on sale)
While you may want to drive a toaster (Scion xB), playing them is not always a good idea. They do get some benefits but are hard to heal by clerics and end up being shunned because of this reason unless they have their own potions.

Monk Class – 795TP (636TP on sale)
Many say this is the most complex class to play. It’s a matter of taste.

Drow Race unlock – 795TP (636TP on sale)
How hard is it to get the favor, honestly? This is a great race so when you get your favor, play it then… it’s not necessary to purchase.

Favored Soul Class unlock – 795TP (636TP on sale)
The FvS is the sorc of clerics. Souls get TONS of SP and better combat ability but sacrifice easy spell swaps and number of spells at each level, but if you find your cleric constantly oom and know what spells to pick when, give it a shot. Also obtainable as an unlock at 2,500 favor. Healing will not be as potent if you sacrifice WIS.

Veteran Status – 1,495TP (1,196TP on sale)
Handy, but are you really not able to work up to 1,000 favor on a character?

Shared Vault – 1,495TP (1,196TP on sale) TOP PICK!
Unless you want to make another account on another computer to trade items to and then trade them to your alt or mail them from one to another, you’ll need this.

+10 capacity in shared vault – 995TP (796TP on sale) TOP PICK!
See above. Pretty damn necessary.

One extra character slot – 595TP (476TP on sale) TOP PICK!
These are on sale pretty often. Very handy since the storage options suck in the game so you can have extra mules.

The Math

For all the packs you’ll ever need, you can total 5,995TP or 4,796TP if you wait for sales. You can manage to skip Gianthold and Sands in favor of f2p content if you want for a total of 4,150TP or 3,320TP on sale. In terms of account options, get yourself the Shared Vault, +10 capacity and 4 extra slots (for a total of 8) at a cost of 4,870TP or 3,896TP on sale. Assuming you didn’t buy GH and Sands, your total will be 7,216TP on sale and that’ll leave you more than 2,500TP to spend on extras like hair styles/colors, spirit cakes and more. If you’d like extra storyline and loot options, get GH and Sands for a total of 8,692TP.

If you get the 6,900 points deal on the occasion it rolls around and get one less character slot, omit GH and Sands, you can do the entire thing for $50 USD.

Now you’ll have a permanent VIPish account at no monthly cost with TONS of enjoyment for $100 USD straight up. Don’t forget that you get more TP for every 100 favor you earn.

Want to own everything in the game to have a true lifetime VIP account? It’ll cost ya a total of 19,515TP or 15,612TP assuming you buy everything on sale (as of July 2010).

Before You Ask

If you downgrade your VIP account to f2p, it’ll automatically keep you VIP for the rest of the billing period you’ve already purchased and leave you with a premium account.

Some of the information here was taken from Robi3.0‘s great f2p guide in the DDO Forums.

  • Walt Snider
    #1 written by Walt Snider  1 year ago

    Thanks to Jerry Snook of DDOcast for spotting a grammar error early! I nearly appeared in my own column!

    http://www.DDOcast.com

  • Envinyatar
    #2 written by Envinyatar  1 year ago

    Good article. I have to say, as a Premium player, I’ve almost to a “T” purchased and not purchased what you’ve suggested here (before the article was written), so if any new players are contemplating the most bang for the buck as a Premium account, follow this article’s advice!

  • Seneca Windforge
    #3 written by Seneca Windforge  1 year ago

    I’ll disagree somewhat with the loot comments about Tangleroot.

    The Blademaster Gauntlets/Bracers are +3 Dex/Str items that can be equipped at level 5, and are good twink gear that you can pass around to other alts. Also, the Crimson Gemstone is a +50 SP trinket slot item which is nice for several levels until you get a Magi item.

    It’s also easier to solo than Delera’s, IMO.

    • Walt Snider
      #4 written by Walt Snider  1 year ago

      Hmm…. you do raise some good points here, I should add this gear above, but the XP at least is negligable… something in the neighborhood of 14k or so? I guess it’s good at level… maybe I should revisit this chain.

      BTW, I’m not VIP, but own every AP in the game ‘cept the House P Carnival… I’m sure it’s great and all, but there’s so much lowbie content I skip on the way to 20, I don’t want to own this and skip it like the rest.

      • Seneca Windforge
        #5 written by Seneca Windforge  1 year ago

        The XP for tangleroot is okay for a level 4 or 5 — I try to save Delera’s for level 6+, and a run through tangleroot helps.

        And yeah, there is a glut of low level quests out there. Some of the new ones (Carnival, Syndicate) or making the loot in the older ones (Catacombs, STK) obsolete, too. It’s great that we have all these options, but I really think we need a pack that’s level 15 and another that’s level 20 before anything else.

        • Walt Snider
          #6 written by Walt Snider  1 year ago

          The way I personally start a new character is champion it and get all the twink gear set up and then drink an XP pot I got from the egg collector. It’s a 10% for 6 hours pot. I run myself through New Ringleader and WW a few times until I make 5 then run Delera. I do it this way so I can have a continuous XP boost running (Voice). I always try to grind a couple extra runs in parts 2 and 4 for the great XP. By the time the pot runs out, I’m still getting the 5% from the Voice.

          I am SO in agreement with you… a level 15 and 20 pack would be awesome. Unfortunately, it seems that since House D and P got packs, the other houses may get them as well… I hope not! I’d love to be able to go to the 12 planescaller and go to Dolruth or Lamania finally… that’d make a great 20 pack.

          I think I forget to go to IQ when I’m 16 for some XP there… I usually try to grind it out in The Vale instead… You wanna help with a suggested XP guide? Sort of a where do I go now sort of thing?

          Oh… updating the gear under TR now.

  • Seneca Windforge
    #7 written by Seneca Windforge  1 year ago

    Sorry I didn’t answer for a while.

    I could maybe help, but I’m not really a hardcore XP grinder. I could suggest a few decent XP runs, though.

    Also, Sarrowdusk = Sorrowdusk, Thernal = Threnal. Also, I think you missed Shan-to-Kor.

  • Walt Snider
    #8 written by Walt Snider  1 year ago


    Seneca Windforge:

    Also, Sarrowdusk = Sorrowdusk, Thernal = Threnal.

    Both updated, thanks!


    Seneca Windforge:

    Also, I think you missed Shan-to-Kor.

    You’re right! Updated it in “Can Skip” and updated The Math appropriately, thanks!


    Seneca Windforge:

    Sorry I didn’t answer for a while.

    I could maybe help, but I’m not really a hardcore XP grinder. I could suggest a few decent XP runs, though.

    I think I’ll be contacting you directly on this… I think it’d make a great section here!

  • Emy
    #9 written by Emy  1 year ago

    Ruins of Threnal are being a bit maligned here; I actually think they’re very good XP for when you’ve hit lvl10 and there’s nothing much to do except the Desert until you get to Gianthold (a place I don’t go to until I’m preferably lvl14).

    The entire chain gives some really good items too including Retribution – a truely awesome little sword. Plus Mantle’s 5% XP might not stack with the Voice’s, but the two items worn together do give permanent True Seeing. Also the spell absorption can be nice.

    These items alone make Threnal worth running:

    Retribution (+1 Longsword, Holy, True Law, Pure Good )
    Mantle of the Worldshaper (5% XP, 5 charges of spell absorption)
    Spectacular Optics (Reflex Save +4, Protection +3)
    Rabbit Gloves (Good luck 5%)

    There’s a few good clickies & class dependant items amongst the rest:

    Thanatos Weave (Deathblock, Armor Bonus +2)
    Jeweled Hammer (+3 Warhammer, Command, Impact)
    Ratcatcher (+2 Light Crossbow, Vermin Bane)
    Theurgic Stave (+1 Quarterstaff, Adamantine, Elemental Bane, Spot +5)
    Domus Cuirass (+4 Breastplate)
    Fencers Garb (+3 Leather Armor, Spearblock)
    Guard of the Shogun (+3 Splintmail, Intimidate +5, Diplomacy +3)
    Brilliant Docent of the Dawn (+1 Docent, Aid 3/rest, Wizardry I)
    Kundarak Trooper’s Shield (+2 Tower Shield, Heroism 3/rest)
    Bracers of Spiderkind (Poison Save +2, Summon Monster IV 3/rest)
    Asbestos Booties (Fire Resistance, Reflex Save -2)
    Glacial Casque (Greater Glaciation IV)
    Crystal Prism (Suggestion 3/Rest)
    Penny Whistle (Summon Monster III 5/rest)
    Brass Beaver (Repair Moderate Damage 3/rest, Repair +7)
    Coin Belt (Command, Haggle +10)
    Accomplice (Move Silently +10, Hide +10, Charisma -1)
    100 Amethyst Arrows (Screaming, Returning 50%, +5 Enhancement Bonus)

  • Emy
    #10 written by Emy  1 year ago

    Incidentally – I have to disagree with the Necropolis being “Missions are clean, well designed and fun” and insert “Tedious, repetative and boring!”

    I know this is all down to personal opinion; but I’d almost rather cut off my own arms than run those quests multiple times!

    The swimming one is lengthy beyond belief, half your party get lost or drown and you’re still swimming in circles 60mins later.
    The rat maze was a lovely thought which was badly executed and leaves 5 members of the party staring into space or arguing as one person patiently coaxes rat after rat through the traps & mobs.
    Several need a minimum of 4 players to go through so I wouldn’t reccommend buying them if you’re a solo / off peak player.
    Etc, etc.

    This is all just opinion though and people have different attitudes to quests – afterall, I’ve met some people who ENJOY The Pit…. Oh, the humanity!

  • Emy
    #11 written by Emy  1 year ago

    An acknowledgement that VON3 & VON5 are massive Xp should also be conceded maybe?
    Both are approximately 20,000XP which is a lot if you run it at level.

  • Ninniach
    #12 written by Ninniach  1 year ago

    While you’re probably right in where you put Shan-ToKor as a can-miss, it’s worth noting that for its level it can be one of the most requested runs on LFGs. I picked it up originally simply because a lot of people wwere looking for people to run it with. Also worth noting is that anyone running it needs to clear some inventory space. It can be very chest-heavy if you hit all the optionals.

    On that note, some of these quests can be made more valuable when using gems of fortune to boost the loot level. It doesn’t affect the end rewards or the XP of course, but chest-heavy quests can help you rack up gold and sometimes reasonable random gear with a loot boost. Running STK when the +2 to loot boost was on during the big fuss over all those VIP/Premium being reduced to F2P for a couple of weeks made a serious difference in the value of it versus a regular run.

  • Abeon
    #13 written by Abeon  1 year ago

    Personnaly, I love necro. Great XP, ok loot, lots to do.
    I hate Gianthold and still haven’t run most of it after nearly 2 years of playing DDO.

    VON is a great pack to buy for the loot and XP.

    Great article and a good read :)

  • Traviss
    #14 written by Traviss  1 year ago

    It’s also worth noting that if you plan on TR’ing, you might want the ‘extra’ adventure packs because of the lowered xp that you’ll get, sure maybe you can still get to 20 grinding the same stuff but it would be a lot easier with tangle and such.
    Just my opinion.

  • Herb
    #16 written by Herb  1 year ago

    Sentinels – at least from a Monks stand point is a good pack to have – you can pick up the Torn Chitin Bracers then get the three sigils (Dragon, Goat, Lion) and upgrade it with the sigils in Visbane’s Folly Crafting Altar (Top of the tower House D) to the Jidz-Tet’ka Bracers – Armor Bonus +5, Will Save +2.

    These bracers also have the following ability –
    Monk Air Stance: +10 insight to jump
    Monk Fire Stance: +25% Insight to Healing amplification (Stacks with other healing amp)
    Monk Earth Stance: +1 unarmed damage die step
    Monk Water Stance: 1d6 dex damage + paralyzes on a natural 20

    My Monk picked these up at level 5 (minimum level) and never took them off to level 20.

    Also not as great but a Bard can pick up the Corroded Rapier – upgrade it with the three sigils to the Elyd Edge.
    Cha +1, Devotion II, Silver and bard songs regenerate over time.
    (I believe its 1 Bard song every 5 minutes)
    Not great, but better than a masterwork club!

    • Kitika
      #17 written by Kitika  1 year ago

      I agree on Sentinels. The other pretty spiffy item is Chimera’s Crown. Gives added dragonmark uses, SR 15, and +1 natural armor bonus. Plus its a lvl 5 item so every new toon gets it until something spiffier comes along (Sentinels items are bound to account once equipped).

      The epic version of this is SR 25 and +5 armor bonus, and the epic of the Jidz-Tet’ka Bracers up the armor bonus to +8, wis to +6, and will save +5 along with the added bonuses to monk stance. Pretty spiffy if you ask me.

  • Northe
    #18 written by Northe  1 year ago

    You didn’t mention the 50% sales that have happened on and off, huge savings there if one has the patience to wait around.

    Dreaming Dark is a necessity for awesome gear like the QForged Docent and Death’s Touch (+2 necro). Also, check out Ioun stones and you’ll see the huge benefit for grabbing that pack =)

    As far as your comment on WF… Wizard + WF = the easy button. With a sup pot 6 + recon, you can heal yourself and other WFs for 225 with a cost of 35 mana. A WF wiz is self sufficient and can easily solo the game if so desired, or be a valuable asset to any party as it’s one less character a cleric has to worry about healing while dealing the top kills in every quest + buffing up others to make them beasts. WF Sorc can be debated, but i’d still say the repair skills lend themselves toward wiz and sorc being WF, if they want to get the full benefit of the class.

    Great guide though, thanks for pointing out to people that they can own these packs for such a low price, I’m a ‘VIP’ such as yourself (minus the ability to unlock quests on elite from the getgo, man I wish they’d make that a store item I’d buy it in a heartbeat.)

    • Kitika
      #19 written by Kitika  1 year ago

      The sale is mentioned near the top, we both made sure to point that out and to point out the exact dollar break down us math challenged…

      I so agree with the idea of buying hard/elite opens! Talk about easy favor grinding.

      • Northe
        #20 written by Northe  1 year ago

        Mentioned the 20% but not the 50% sales that are much rarer but do happen from time to time (at least i’m not seeing it listed…). I’m also not 100% sure if the 50% sales are ever for packs, or just for account options and dumb things like full plates *facepalm*. I did grab additional bank slots on the 50% sale days, that was rather nice.

        Also they revamped devil assault with some better loot and the chronoscope raid makes it a bit of a better buy (for those of us who got it at 150 or lower especially…unfortunately they revamped the price too xD)

  • Rinimand
    #21 written by Rinimand  1 year ago

    Other guidance from http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=287854 if you don’t mind the url post. There are similar and different opinions between the two, and it never hurts to have a second opinion.

  • Rinimand
    #22 written by Rinimand  1 year ago

    Here is another good thing to know about Premium Accounts vs F2P

    For as little as $10 you can get Turbine Points at Target and thus a Premium Account. On top of the points which you can spend you also get 20 minute idle timeout instead of 10 minutes, 4 chars per server instead of 2 chars. 4 chars per server will make it easer to gain server-based Favor points and thus more Turbine Points.

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